ok so i’m sort of looking for a rapid response to this question from anyone who cares to chime in.
if my boss, who is a bitch, says that my department can’t pay off vacation leave like the rest of the campus does and that instead of working till my last day and then having my vacation time cashed out and ADDED to my paycheck, i have to take the number of vacation days which i have left BEFORE my last day, is it ethical to then say that in addition to the 5 days of vacation leave i’m also going to take my current leftover 4 days of sick leave? this would make my last day next tuesday. what are they going to do if i tell them i’m calling in sick the last 4 days i’m supposed to be working? fire me? whatever bitches. but seriously, how bad of an idea is this? i need opinions other than my angry own.
if it’s possible i say do it!! don’t let them screw you out of any money they owe you!! god dammit! yah!
that’s just my humble opinion.
but then, this comes from a girl who works mondo overtime…charms huge gift certificates, bonuses, favors and OT pay out of the bosses…but is secretly planning to ditch them for grad school.
Call in sick! Call in sick and hang out with me…..because I will be there next Tuesday. And Wednesday and Thursday. Screw them, and come have fun with me! While you’re sick. =)
i don’t see anything wrong wtih it. you’ve earned that time, after all. fuck ’em and do it.
If you feel like fighting it, why don’t you point them to this page?
http://atyourservice.ucop.edu/employees/policies/staff_policies/spp41.html
Scroll down to section D: Vacation pay.
Let me quote the relevant section
D. VACATION PAY
An employee shall be paid for vacation accrued through the last day on pay status upon:
1. resignation;
2. termination;
3. retirement;
4. indefinite layoff;
That’s from the Office of the President and the UC Human Resources and Benefits site. Your department can’t make itself a special case because the policy is very clear for the ENTIRE University of California.
If you want your time to be cashed out to you, then that time must be cashed out. Whether or not they can afford it. If they wanted it otherwise, they should have thought of that earlier and written a policy document for it.
Or, you could paraphrase a certain Mr. Folds and scream, “Give me my money, you bitch!”
As a soon-to-be-quitting occasionally-over-half-time UC employee, thank you for the reminder to cash in my vacation time, or call in sick a bunch, or whatever before my imminent resignation.
jenny- if she yells at me about my current plan, i will just be calling in sick those days and fuck them anyway. so i am all over the hanging out on top of you. i mean with you.
dianna- grr! yeah!
jacob- i love your ability to make it logically legal.
sean- that is completely useless advice. useless.
to everybody, you really didn’t reply fast enough as i sent the email at 4:30 saying, “hey i’m going to call in sick the last 4 days too, which will get me out of here on the 17th.” and then i ran away from the office. tomorrow i will have to face the music. i am terrified. i hate being this nervous to GO TO WORK. i hate these people for making me feel this way. and most of all i hate having worked there for 9 fucking months only to leave and probably never get a good reference out of them.
p.s. thank you to jade whose advice i did get before i left and whose advice i acted on. =)
Sorry to here you came done with a deadly but harmless strain of the common cold, that happens to have no symptoms and last for 4 days.
email that the boss sent yesterday which i read last night:
“Sorry, Michele, this will not work because sick leave and vacation leave do not work the same way when you resign. Vacation leave is like income. You only take sick days with you if you go to another UC job. You don’t get paid for them upon resignation.
We need to talk about this tomorrow.”
how mad was i last night? pretty fucking mad.
but then driving to work i realized i was only so mad so i wouldn’t cry. which consequently made me cry. and now i’m at work. sitting and waiting for the boss to come in and “talk” at me.
Point them to the page I told you about. It’s absolutely true that vacation leave is like income. That’s why you get PAID for it when you leave the university. They can’t force you to take your leave.
If you want to work those last few days and then have them cash out those days, tell them to stuff it in their fucking ear.
The sick day stuff isn’t logically legal. But getting paid for those vacation days is.
YEAH! big points to everyone for the michele support, but especially jacob for the factual legal advice.
michele, i stand by my “get boils” speech.
it was an awfully good speech. but i think i am a wuss and will really just be working here till next friday when i will have my last day. maybe i’ll call in sick one day. this is soooo pathetic.
boss just walked in.
Hey how did it go? If you want to work to the end of the month and then get your vacation time you can. I don’t give a damn what they say about them paying for it and not the UC. You are technically a UC employee and are allowed to have your vacation time cashed out.
I hate that woman. You can always just call in sick for a couple of days. What are they going to do? Nothing. They can’t do anything you’re leaving anyways and they can’t prove your not sick.
I hope work didn’t suck too much today. Don’t worry it’ll be over next week and you’ll never have to talk to the woman again. It’s a beautiful thing. Believe me.
she in fact would ask for a doctor’s note. she said so this morning. what does she think this is? elementary school?
stupid bitch. I’m sorry. Get out of there as fast as freaking possible. She is not worth this aggrivation.
she would ASK for a DOCTOR’S NOTE? does she think there’s some kind of trickery going on here? does she think that you think that she has ANY hold over you at this point?
i am SO amazed you have not snapped yet and stapled her face to her skirt. i might just come over there and do it myself.
She needs a doctors note??? well dr. jade says you have just come down with a highly contagious bacteria (not virus, cuz then you can’t get rid of it…) and it will put you under for precisely 4 days. and it comes with rare, but not unheard of, symptoms of randomly losing consciousness and stapling objects (like skirts) to foreheads and stealing everyone’s left shoe.
My sister wanted to be a doctor at one time, so she can write you a note, right? So you can come chill with me and tell your heinous bitch of a boss to go screw herself? Right? =)
sigh. wrong. i get off at 4:30 though and i can come to wherever you are then. or you can come here and i will take you to tasty gelato! mmmm gelato….
i’m obviously behind on the bolstering of michele, but wow, babe, that sucks! i am all for skirt stapling. really at this point, just leave as soon as possible, don’t stress, and stick your tongue out at her whenever she walks by.
i think i speak for everyone in here when i say, “fuck her in the arse with a telephone directory.”
metaphorically, of course.